<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><!DOCTYPE article  PUBLIC '-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.4//EN'  'http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.4/docbookx.dtd'><article><articleinfo><title>DuesRestructuring</title><revhistory><revision><revnumber>9</revnumber><date>2011-04-22 22:55:40</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials><revremark>Revert to revision 6.</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>8</revnumber><date>2011-04-21 17:03:25</date><authorinitials>warhol.kgs.ku.edu</authorinitials><revremark>TNcnky  &lt;a href=&quot;http://afvgjftfmmlh.com/&quot;&gt;afvgjftfmmlh&lt;/a&gt;</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>7</revnumber><date>2011-04-21 06:05:17</date><authorinitials>thurrock_hide.cache.e2bn.org</authorinitials><revremark>Home run! Great slugging with that anwesr!</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>6</revnumber><date>2009-10-16 20:48:14</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials><revremark>updated numbers</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>5</revnumber><date>2009-10-12 22:22:33</date><authorinitials>RobinTempleton</authorinitials><revremark>NCB</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>4</revnumber><date>2009-09-24 23:35:33</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials></revision><revision><revnumber>3</revnumber><date>2009-09-24 23:32:44</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials><revremark>a few notes on banking</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>2</revnumber><date>2009-09-24 19:33:55</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials><revremark>typo</revremark></revision><revision><revnumber>1</revnumber><date>2009-09-22 21:06:42</date><authorinitials>ClintonEbadi</authorinitials><revremark>initial ... number are extremely fuzzy</revremark></revision></revhistory></articleinfo><section><title>Current Budget</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>135 Members </para></listitem><listitem><para>161 Pledges </para></listitem><listitem><para>$5/month/pledge </para></listitem><listitem><para>Income </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>pledges: $805 </para></listitem><listitem><para>members: $685 </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para><ulink url="https://wiki.hcoop.net/DuesRestructuring/HcoopBudget#">Current Monthly Expenses</ulink> </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>$969.85 </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para><emphasis role="strong">'Monthly Deficit: $164.85</emphasis>' ($1.02/pledge, $1.22/member) </para></listitem><listitem><para>33 additional pledges needed to break even (59 additional members </para><itemizedlist><listitem override="none"><para>without pledges) </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem></itemizedlist><section><title>Current Accumulated Deficit (up to October)</title><para>$136.30 </para></section></section><section><title>Migration Expenses</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Server Hardware: ~$2000 </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para><ulink url="https://wiki.hcoop.net/DuesRestructuring/PowerEdge#">PowerEdge</ulink> 2970 + large raid </para></listitem><listitem><para>Console Server </para></listitem><listitem><para>Switch </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para>New Colocation: ~$700/month * 2  </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Actual cost pending </para></listitem><listitem><para>We would be carrying this in addition to peer1 for up to 60 days (ideally 30) </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem></itemizedlist><section><title>Migration Cost Per Member</title><section><title>Colocation</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Each month at both colos (($700 + $850) = $2250) </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Pledges: $13.97 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Members: $16.67 </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem></itemizedlist></section><section><title>Hardware</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Per pledge: $14.82 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Per member: $12.42 </para></listitem></itemizedlist></section></section></section><section><title>Dues Restructuring</title><section><title>Overview</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Dues pegged to <code>ceiling(recurring expenses / pledges)</code> </para></listitem><listitem><para>The board would be authorized to add $0-$3 per share for projected </para><itemizedlist><listitem override="none"><para>non-recurring costs and debts </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para>Dues would be adjusted quarterly based on new costs and member counts </para></listitem><listitem><para>Plan would be enacted for December billing cycle </para></listitem></itemizedlist></section><section><title>Short Term Increase</title><para>All numbers involving new setup are pending known colocation cost. </para><para>Assuming 161 pledges </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Adjusted to October Real Cost = $969.85 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Per pledge: $6.02 </para></listitem><listitem><para>No debt repayment / non-recurring costs adjustment </para></listitem></itemizedlist><section><title>Deficit</title><para>October and November would run a deficit. </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>October deficit: $164.85 </para></listitem><listitem><para>November deficit: $864.85 </para></listitem><listitem><para><emphasis role="strong">Total: $1029</emphasis>' </para></listitem></itemizedlist><para>This becomes a total migration deficit of ~$2000 + ~$1029 + $136.30 = ~$3165 </para></section><section><title>End Peer1 Dec 1</title><itemizedlist><listitem><para>December real cost:$811.60 </para></listitem><listitem><para>December income (161 pledges @ $7): $1127 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Surplus: ~$315 </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Per Pledge: $1.85 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Per Member: $2.34 </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para>Remaining deficit Mar 1: <emphasis role="strong">'$2220</emphasis>' </para></listitem><listitem><para>Entire deficit paid off ~7 months later (assuming zero or slow expansion) </para></listitem></itemizedlist></section></section></section><section><title>Numbers Look Better With New Members</title><para>Each new member joining before quarterly adjustment is paying 100% toward migration debt / expansion funding. </para><para>New members therefore essentially pay for the capacity expansion required to handle them. </para></section><section><title>Long Term Reduction</title><para>With 300 members: </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Projected real costs: $811.60 </para><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Per member: $2.71 (3) </para></listitem></itemizedlist></listitem><listitem><para>Expansion fund: $1 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Total cost: $4 </para></listitem><listitem><para>Monthly surplus: $388.40 (or $688.40 with $2 expansion fund) </para></listitem></itemizedlist><para>This is feasible within a year given our new hardware. </para></section><section><title>Related Ideas</title><section><title>Join National Cooperatives Bank</title><para>A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the <ulink url="http://ncb.coop">NCB</ulink>, but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account. </para><para>I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [<ulink url="http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf"/>] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but &quot;some nonprofit organizations may not qualify.&quot; The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form. </para></section><section><title>Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account</title><para>We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund? </para></section></section></article>