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/!\ '''This page is currently in flux.''' We are still figuring out the details of how we want DomTool to interact with Mailman.
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If you would like a mailing list managed by our global [http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ Mailman] [https://lists.hcoop.net/ listinfo installation], you must first [https://members2.hcoop.net/portal/list place a request on the portal]. If you would like a mailing list managed by our global [http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ Mailman] [https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo installation], you must first [https://members2.hcoop.net/portal/list place a request on the portal].
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== Using https://hcoop.net/ for the web interface == == Using https://lists.hcoop.net/ for the web interface ==
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You can then access your list at {{{https://hcoop.net/admin/LISTNAME}}}, where '''LISTNAME''' is the name of your list. You can then access your list at {{{https://lists.hcoop.net/admin/LISTNAME}}}, where '''LISTNAME''' is the name of your list.
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 * '''LISTNAME''' is the name you gave your list,
 * '''DOMAIN''' is your domain,
 * '''VHOST''' is the virtual subdomain you would like the web interface to be accesible from.
 * '''USER''' is your HCoop username.		  * '''$LISTNAME''' is the name you gave your list,
 * '''$DOMAIN''' is your domain,
 * '''$VHOST''' is the virtual subdomain you would like the web interface to be accesible from.
 * '''$USER''' is your HCoop username.
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If you want to access the site from your domain with no subdomain, then use the default virtual host for ''VHOST'' (in other words, "www"). If you want to access the site from your domain with no subdomain, then use the default virtual host for ''$VHOST'' (in other words, "www").
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domain "DOMAIN" with domain "$DOMAIN" with
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  mailmanWebHost "VHOST.DOMAIN";
end;		   mailman "$VHOST";
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(* This has to be its own subdomain, if you want to be able to *)
(* provide the alias "mailman@VHOST.DOMAIN", which is advertised *)
(* on http://VHOST.DOMAIN/listinfo. Alas, there is no way to *)
(* change that alias to "mailman@DOMAIN", short of patching *)
(* Mailman. Otherwise, you could get by with a dnsIP line. *)
(* Perhaps this is something best generated automatically by *)
(* Domtool. *)
domain "VHOST.DOMAIN" with
  nameserver "ns1.hcoop.net";
  nameserver "ns3.hcoop.net";
  dnsDefault "69.90.123.67";		   (* Do the following if you want the email address given on *)
  (* http://$VHOST.$DOMAIN/listinfo to work. *)
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  emailAlias "mailman" "USER";   emailAlias "mailman" "$USER";
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The list admin web interface then will be available at {{{http://VHOST.DOMAIN.TLD/admin/LISTNAME}}}. The list admin web interface then will be available at {{{http://$VHOST.$DOMAIN/admin/$LISTNAME}}}.

/!\ Be sure to change the '''host_name''' setting for the list to be "$DOMAIN" (namely, your domain name) using the list admin web interface, or messages sent to that list will come from the wrong domain!
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The best way of doing this is for you to point your domain's MX record to `deleuze.hcoop.net`. If you want to use the Mailman webinterface on a subdomain, then point that subdomain at `deleuze.hcoop.net`, as well. The best way of doing this is for you to point your domain's MX record to `deleuze.hcoop.net`. If you want to use the Mailman webinterface on a subdomain, then be sure to point that subdomain at `deleuze.hcoop.net`.
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= Putting the list email address and web interface on different domains =

Say you want to receive email to a list at {{{mylist@emailsub.domain.tld}}}, but you want the web interface for the list to be at {{{http://lists.domaintwo.tld}}}. Here is how you accomplish that.

 * Make sure that you have been granted the {{{domaintwo.tld}}} domain.
 * Add the following domtool configuration {{{
domain "domaintwo.tld" with
  mailmanVhost "lists";
end;

domain "domain.tld" with
  mailmanWebHost "lists.domaintwo.tld";
end;
}}}
 * Tell MichaelOlson to update your list url to {{{http://lists.domaintwo.tld}}}, by filing a request in the portal with the "list" category.

= Permitting email for the same list to be delivered to multiple domains =

Say you have a list called "listname". If you want to permit email from both "listname@domain.tld" and "listname@domaintwo.tld", then you will need to do the following.

 * Choose a "canonical" domain, between the two. Mailman will only get the links correct on the web interface with this domain name. We will denote the other domain as the secondary domain.
 * Add a "mailmanVhost" line to the domtool configuration for each domain, or make one domain an alias of the other. The canonical domain should not be an alias. In the case that you are adding a "mailmanVhost" line, be sure that the canonical domain comes before the secondary domain.
 * Using the web interface, edit acceptable_aliases to include a regexp like {{{
^listname@domaintwo\.tld$}}}
 * File a request on the "list" category of the portal, mentioning that you want to do this, and mention which domain is the canonical one. MichaelOlson will take care of the rest.

This page describes how to set up and manage mailing lists on your domain.

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Request a Mailing List

If you would like a mailing list managed by our global [http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ Mailman] [https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo installation], you must first [https://members2.hcoop.net/portal/list place a request on the portal].

Setup Instructions

You then have a choice between doing list management at [https://lists.hcoop.net/admin/LISTNAME https://lists.hcoop.net/admin/LISTNAME] or at your own domain.

Using https://lists.hcoop.net/ for the web interface

If you are fine with using the main hcoop.net site for your list's web interface, then there is nothing left to do except wait for the list to be created.

You can then access your list at https://lists.hcoop.net/admin/LISTNAME, where LISTNAME is the name of your list.

Using your own domain for the web interface

If you would like the web interface to be at your own domain, then you must do some simple domain configuration.

  • $LISTNAME is the name you gave your list,

  • $DOMAIN is your domain,

  • $VHOST is the virtual subdomain you would like the web interface to be accesible from.

  • $USER is your HCoop username.

If you want to access the site from your domain with no subdomain, then use the default virtual host for $VHOST (in other words, "www"). 

domain "$DOMAIN" with
  (* Other configuration stuff...  *)

  mailman "$VHOST";

  (* Do the following if you want the email address given on *)
  (* http://$VHOST.$DOMAIN/listinfo to work. *)
  handleMail;
  emailAlias "mailman" "$USER";
end;

The list admin web interface then will be available at http://$VHOST.$DOMAIN/admin/$LISTNAME.

/!\ Be sure to change the host_name setting for the list to be "$DOMAIN" (namely, your domain name) using the list admin web interface, or messages sent to that list will come from the wrong domain!

Hosting Domains Elsewhere

You can host mailing lists with us that use your own domains, even if your domain is primarily hosted elsewhere.

The best way of doing this is for you to point your domain's MX record to deleuze.hcoop.net. If you want to use the Mailman webinterface on a subdomain, then be sure to point that subdomain at deleuze.hcoop.net.

Migrating an Existing List

If you previously hosted a mailing list on Fyodor, our old machine, then file a request at [https://bugzilla.hcoop.net/enter_bug.cgi Our bug-tracker], using the Mailman component. Be sure to tell us what the name of your list is.

If you haven't hosted a mailing list with us before, it is still possible to migrate a list over to our machines, provided that you have an mbox file containing the archives, and the file config.pck containing your settings. File a request at [https://bugzilla.hcoop.net/enter_bug.cgi Our bug-tracker], using the Mailman component, and we will help you out.

Putting the list email address and web interface on different domains

Say you want to receive email to a list at mylist@emailsub.domain.tld, but you want the web interface for the list to be at http://lists.domaintwo.tld. Here is how you accomplish that.

  • Make sure that you have been granted the domaintwo.tld domain.

  • Add the following domtool configuration 

    domain "domaintwo.tld" with
  mailmanVhost "lists";
end;

domain "domain.tld" with
  mailmanWebHost "lists.domaintwo.tld";
end;

  • Tell MichaelOlson to update your list url to http://lists.domaintwo.tld, by filing a request in the portal with the "list" category.

Permitting email for the same list to be delivered to multiple domains

Say you have a list called "listname". If you want to permit email from both "listname@domain.tld" and "listname@domaintwo.tld", then you will need to do the following.

  • Choose a "canonical" domain, between the two. Mailman will only get the links correct on the web interface with this domain name. We will denote the other domain as the secondary domain.
  • Add a "mailmanVhost" line to the domtool configuration for each domain, or make one domain an alias of the other. The canonical domain should not be an alias. In the case that you are adding a "mailmanVhost" line, be sure that the canonical domain comes before the secondary domain.

  • Using the web interface, edit acceptable_aliases to include a regexp like 

    ^listname@domaintwo\.tld$

  • File a request on the "list" category of the portal, mentioning that you want to do this, and mention which domain is the canonical one. MichaelOlson will take care of the rest.

MemberManual/Email/MailingLists (last edited 2019-01-10 03:27:17 by ClintonEbadi)