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Currently, the Hcoop Inc. group planning the next server architecture is compiling a list of companies that we will contact with our quote request letter, detailed on the page ProspectiveHostsQuoteRequest. All members are invited to submit new companies to the pool that will be considered for hosting our next architecture by the deadline of April 14, 2006. You may also petition to remove hosting companies from consideration by that date. In order to remove or add companies from consideration, you may modify the list of companies below. If for any reason you would prefer not to modify the wiki page, email JustinLeitgeb at justin@phq.org and he will modify the wiki page for you. Also, JustinLeitgeb will be the default representative from the group to send out the quote requests, unless anyone else volunteers. If certain members would like to contact any of the hosting companies below, perhaps to maintain continuity of a relationship, add a comment stating this next to the name of the appropriate company below. Once we begin to receive requests from the companies concerned, the results will be posted for member review on the page ServiceProvidersReview. The hcoop discussion email list will be mailed to indicate when results are ready for review as we lead up to a vote. |
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| * [http://www.gaiahost.coop/ GAIA Host] * [http://www.inreach.com/ InReach] * [http://www.monkeybrains.net/ Monkey Brains] * [http://www.he.net/ he.net] |
''Sat Apr 8 10:49:16 EDT 2006 Update: JustinLeitgeb sent quote requests to all of the organizations listed below, except for the one that NathanKennedy contacted previously. Please feel free to modify this list by the April 14 deadline, and any provider that is appended to the list will have a quote request sent to them. Otherwise, be patient for a few days and you will see the wiki page ColocationProvidersEvaluation populated with a summary of responses that we have received from the providers in contention for our colo needs.'' 1. [[http://www.gaiahost.coop/|GAIA Host]] 2. [[http://www.he.net/|he.net]] Large colo provider with two? data centers and a solid reputation. 3. [[http://www.inreach.com/|InReach]] 4. [[http://www.peer1.net/|Peer1]] Another large colo provider, with about 5 data centers. Perhaps slightly larger than he.net. 5. [[http://seaccp.org/|The Seattle Community Colo Project]], which is sponsored by [[http://www.riseup.net/|riseup.net]]. - I have sent a quote request to Riseup.net --NathanKennedy - I would like to consider the [[http://nyccp.net/|New York Community Colo Project]], which is a branch of this project that may be closer to a larger portion of member base. 6. [[http://www.simpli.biz/|Simpli]] (my personal favorite so far --AdamChlipala) 7. [[http://www.switchanddata.com/index.asp|Switch and Data]] has many carrier-neutral data centers in New York that I would like to check for pricing. 8. [[http://www.pryme.net]] Data Center is in Reston, VA. $675 set up, $675 / mo, $25 / Mbps / mo |
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| Who should we consider for hosting our next hcoop architecture? | * [[http://www.monkeybrains.net/|Monkey Brains]] This is a one-man shop renting cabinets from a real datacenter. I don't think this guy is capable of providing the support we need. Very disturbing FAQ line: |
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| Some providers that have come recommended: | '''Is there a hidden bandwidth limit?''' |
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| * [http://www.gaiahost.coop/ GAIA Host] * [http://www.inreach.com/ InReach] * [http://www.monkeybrains.net/ Monkey Brains] |
''I haven't had any 'heavy' users, so the limits have yet to be tested.'' |
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| Responses to an e-mail AdamChlipala sent to the [http://communitycolo.net/ CCCP] mailing list: * [http://www.simpli.biz Simpli]. The owner of the company told me via e-mail that, as a 501(c)12 corporation, we could pay "30-40% off of our list prices." * That would be awesome if they actually did that. Their list prices look reasonable to begin with. Hopefully they understand what 501(c)(12) is and aren't assuming our organization is a charity. Of course we would still need to compare their service etc. Also this is assuming we *do* get tax-exempt status...it will probably take a while yet. Best case scenario is that we get an acceptance letter sometime next month--I will call them in a week or so anyway to see what the status is. Statistically it is likely they will bounce some questions back at us requiring a few more rounds before approval. Worst case scenario is they deny it outright with prejudice, leaving administrative appeal as the only option (which tends to be a losing option). --NathanKennedy |
In other words, he's not much bigger than we want to be, soon. --NathanKennedy |
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| Other possibilities for hosting that have been mentioned: * [http://www.he.net He.net]. He.net has been around a long time and has lots of redundancy in terms of connections. There is no special discount for coops or not-for-profits, but their prices seem to be reasonable. Specifically, I was given an unofficial quote on 9/11/2005 for 7U of space (12"). Using 1Mbps would be $300 per month, or 2 Mbps would be $250 per Mbps per month up to 4Mbps. I believe that if we went with He.net we would probably end up buying and configuring our own servers, configuring them and sending them to the facility. In case of hardware issues, we may want to check out their hourly cost for "remote hands". This service was cited as a possibility by JustinLeitgeb to the hcoop mailing list. |
''(FYI - I think that most of the colo providers we are looking at here are small companies or individuals renting from data centers. Even Simpli still just rents two "cages" or rooms from a larger data center. The only exceptions to this might be bigger shops like [[http://www.he.net|he.net]] that have their own data centers. -- JustinLeitgeb)'' |
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1. Possible Colocation Service Providers
Currently, the Hcoop Inc. group planning the next server architecture is compiling a list of companies that we will contact with our quote request letter, detailed on the page ProspectiveHostsQuoteRequest. All members are invited to submit new companies to the pool that will be considered for hosting our next architecture by the deadline of April 14, 2006. You may also petition to remove hosting companies from consideration by that date.
In order to remove or add companies from consideration, you may modify the list of companies below. If for any reason you would prefer not to modify the wiki page, email JustinLeitgeb at justin@phq.org and he will modify the wiki page for you.
Also, JustinLeitgeb will be the default representative from the group to send out the quote requests, unless anyone else volunteers. If certain members would like to contact any of the hosting companies below, perhaps to maintain continuity of a relationship, add a comment stating this next to the name of the appropriate company below.
Once we begin to receive requests from the companies concerned, the results will be posted for member review on the page ServiceProvidersReview. The hcoop discussion email list will be mailed to indicate when results are ready for review as we lead up to a vote.
1.1. List of Providers we will send our Quote Request to
This is the list of providers, in alphabetical order, that we will send our quote request to, once the letter on ColocationPlans has been finalized. All will be contacted by JustinLeitgeb unless noted otherwise to the right of the company name.
Sat Apr 8 10:49:16 EDT 2006 Update: JustinLeitgeb sent quote requests to all of the organizations listed below, except for the one that NathanKennedy contacted previously. Please feel free to modify this list by the April 14 deadline, and any provider that is appended to the list will have a quote request sent to them. Otherwise, be patient for a few days and you will see the wiki page ColocationProvidersEvaluation populated with a summary of responses that we have received from the providers in contention for our colo needs.
he.net Large colo provider with two? data centers and a solid reputation.
Peer1 Another large colo provider, with about 5 data centers. Perhaps slightly larger than he.net.
The Seattle Community Colo Project, which is sponsored by riseup.net.
- I have sent a quote request to Riseup.net --NathanKennedy
- I would like to consider the New York Community Colo Project, which is a branch of this project that may be closer to a larger portion of member base.
Simpli (my personal favorite so far --AdamChlipala)
Switch and Data has many carrier-neutral data centers in New York that I would like to check for pricing.
http://www.pryme.net Data Center is in Reston, VA. $675 set up, $675 / mo, $25 / Mbps / mo
1.2. Service providers no longer in contention, unless members have valid reasons for including them in the pool
- This is a one-man shop renting cabinets from a real datacenter. I don't think this guy is capable of providing the support we need. Very disturbing FAQ line:
Is there a hidden bandwidth limit?
I haven't had any 'heavy' users, so the limits have yet to be tested.
In other words, he's not much bigger than we want to be, soon. --NathanKennedy
(FYI - I think that most of the colo providers we are looking at here are small companies or individuals renting from data centers. Even Simpli still just rents two "cages" or rooms from a larger data center. The only exceptions to this might be bigger shops like he.net that have their own data centers. -- JustinLeitgeb)
- This is a one-man shop renting cabinets from a real datacenter. I don't think this guy is capable of providing the support we need. Very disturbing FAQ line:
1.3. See Also
Pages that are related to this are ColocationPlans, which is the main page for discussion of the new architecture, and SystemArchitecturePlans, which provides details and diagrams on hardware and software configuration issues related to the new hcoop network.
Finally, OlderColocationProviderInfo holds page of historical interest based on previous inquiries. I would like to consider this page deprecated as rates may have changed since we initially contacted these companies.