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= Related Ideas = == Join National Cooperatives Bank == A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the [[http://ncb.coop|NCB]], but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account. I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form. == Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account == We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund? |
1. Current Budget
- 134 Members
- 160 Pledges
- $5/month/pledge
- Income
- pledges: $800
- members: $680
- $969.85
'Deficit: $169.85' ($1.06/pledge, $1.26/member)
- 34 additional pledges needed to break even (60 additional members
- without pledges)
1.1. Questions
What is our accumulated peer1 deficit?
2. Migration Expenses
- Server Hardware: $3500
- New Colocation: ~$600/month * 2
- Actual cost pending
- We would be carrying this in addition to peer1 for up to 60 days
2.1. Migration Cost Per Member
- 2 months at both colos
- Pledges: $29.38
- Members: $35.07
- 1 month at both colos
- Pledges: $25.64
- Members: $30.60
3. Dues Restructuring
3.1. Overview
Dues pegged to ceiling(recurring expenses / pledges)
- The board would be authorized to add $0-$3 per share for projected
- non-recurring costs and debts
- Dues would be adjusted quarterly based on new costs and member counts
- Plan would be enacted for November billing cycle
3.2. Short Term Increase
All numbers involving new setup are pending known colocation cost.
Assuming 160 pledges
- Adjusted to November Real Cost = ~$1561.60
- Pending known value for new colocation
- Per pledge: $9.76 ($10)
- Surplus: ~$38.40 (too insignificant to count)
- No debt repayment / non-recurring costs adjustment
3.2.1. End Peer1 Dec 1
- December real cost:$711.60
- Surplus: ~$888.40
- Per Pledge: $5.55
- Per Member: $6.63
- Remaining migration debt Feb 1: $2323.20
3.3. Dues adjusted Feb 1
- Adjusted to February real costs: $711.60
- Per pledge: $4.45 ($5)
- Per member: $5.31 ($6)
- Additional debt-repayment surcharge: $2
- Surplus (@ $7/share)
- With pledges: $408.40
- Without pledges: $226.40
- Remaining migration debt May 1: $1644.00
- Not terrible; completely paid off by the end of 2010
4. Numbers Look Better With New Members
Each new member joining before quarterly adjustment is paying 100% toward migration debt / expansion funding.
New members therefore essentially pay for the capacity expansion required to handle them.
5. Long Term Reduction
With 300 members:
- Projected real costs: $711.60
- Per member: $2.37 (3)
- Expansion fund: $1
- Total cost: $4
- Monthly surplus: $488.40
This is feasible within a year given our new hardware.
6. Related Ideas
6.1. Join National Cooperatives Bank
A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the NCB, but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account.
I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form.
6.2. Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account
We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund?