welcome: please sign in

Diff for "DuesRestructuring"

Differences between revisions 4 and 5
Revision 4 as of 2009-09-24 23:35:33
Size: 3385
Editor: ClintonEbadi
Comment:
Revision 5 as of 2009-10-12 22:22:33
Size: 3880
Comment: NCB
Deletions are marked like this. Additions are marked like this.
Line 106: Line 106:
I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form.

1. Current Budget

  • 134 Members
  • 160 Pledges
  • $5/month/pledge
  • Income
    • pledges: $800
    • members: $680
  • Current Monthly Expenses

    • $969.85
  • 'Deficit: $169.85' ($1.06/pledge, $1.26/member)

  • 34 additional pledges needed to break even (60 additional members
    • without pledges)

1.1. Questions

What is our accumulated peer1 deficit?

2. Migration Expenses

  • Server Hardware: $3500
  • New Colocation: ~$600/month * 2
    • Actual cost pending
    • We would be carrying this in addition to peer1 for up to 60 days

2.1. Migration Cost Per Member

  • 2 months at both colos
    • Pledges: $29.38
    • Members: $35.07
  • 1 month at both colos
    • Pledges: $25.64
    • Members: $30.60

3. Dues Restructuring

3.1. Overview

  • Dues pegged to ceiling(recurring expenses / pledges)

  • The board would be authorized to add $0-$3 per share for projected
    • non-recurring costs and debts
  • Dues would be adjusted quarterly based on new costs and member counts
  • Plan would be enacted for November billing cycle

3.2. Short Term Increase

All numbers involving new setup are pending known colocation cost.

Assuming 160 pledges

  • Adjusted to November Real Cost = ~$1561.60
    • Pending known value for new colocation
  • Per pledge: $9.76 ($10)
  • Surplus: ~$38.40 (too insignificant to count)
  • No debt repayment / non-recurring costs adjustment

3.2.1. End Peer1 Dec 1

  • December real cost:$711.60
  • Surplus: ~$888.40
    • Per Pledge: $5.55
    • Per Member: $6.63
  • Remaining migration debt Feb 1: $2323.20

3.3. Dues adjusted Feb 1

  • Adjusted to February real costs: $711.60
    • Per pledge: $4.45 ($5)
    • Per member: $5.31 ($6)
  • Additional debt-repayment surcharge: $2
  • Surplus (@ $7/share)
    • With pledges: $408.40
    • Without pledges: $226.40
  • Remaining migration debt May 1: $1644.00
    • Not terrible; completely paid off by the end of 2010

4. Numbers Look Better With New Members

Each new member joining before quarterly adjustment is paying 100% toward migration debt / expansion funding.

New members therefore essentially pay for the capacity expansion required to handle them.

5. Long Term Reduction

With 300 members:

  • Projected real costs: $711.60
    • Per member: $2.37 (3)
  • Expansion fund: $1
  • Total cost: $4
  • Monthly surplus: $488.40

This is feasible within a year given our new hardware.

6. Related Ideas

6.1. Join National Cooperatives Bank

A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the NCB, but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account.

I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form.

6.2. Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account

We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund?

DuesRestructuring (last edited 2011-04-22 22:55:40 by ClintonEbadi)