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= Current Budget =

 * 135 Members
 * 161 Pledges
 * $5/month/pledge

 * Income
   * pledges: $805
   * members: $685
 * [[HcoopBudget|Current Monthly Expenses]]
   * $969.85
 * ''''Monthly Deficit: $164.85'''' ($1.02/pledge, $1.22/member)
 * 33 additional pledges needed to break even (59 additional members
   without pledges)

== Current Accumulated Deficit (up to October) ==

$136.30

= Migration Expenses =

 * Server Hardware: ~$2000
   * PowerEdge 2970 + large raid
   * Console Server
   * Switch
 * New Colocation: ~$700/month * 2
   * Actual cost pending
   * We would be carrying this in addition to peer1 for up to 60 days (ideally 30)

== Migration Cost Per Member ==

=== Colocation ===

 * Each month at both colos (($700 + $850) = $2250)
   * Pledges: $13.97
   * Members: $16.67

=== Hardware ===

 * Per pledge: $14.82
 * Per member: $12.42

= Dues Restructuring =

== Overview ==

 * Dues pegged to {{{ceiling(recurring expenses / pledges)}}}
 * The board would be authorized to add $0-$3 per share for projected
   non-recurring costs and debts
 * Dues would be adjusted quarterly based on new costs and member counts
 * Plan would be enacted for December billing cycle

== Short Term Increase ==

All numbers involving new setup are pending known colocation cost.

Assuming 161 pledges

 * Adjusted to October Real Cost = $969.85
 * Per pledge: $6.02
 * No debt repayment / non-recurring costs adjustment

=== Deficit ===

October and November would run a deficit.

 * October deficit: $164.85
 * November deficit: $864.85
 * '''Total: $1029''''

This becomes a total migration deficit of ~$2000 + ~$1029 + $136.30 = ~$3165

=== End Peer1 Dec 1 ===

 * December real cost:$811.60
 * December income (161 pledges @ $7): $1127
 * Surplus: ~$315
   * Per Pledge: $1.85
   * Per Member: $2.34

 * Remaining deficit Mar 1: ''''$2220''''
 * Entire deficit paid off ~7 months later (assuming zero or slow expansion)

= Numbers Look Better With New Members =

Each new member joining before quarterly adjustment is paying 100%
toward migration debt / expansion funding.

New members therefore essentially pay for the capacity expansion
required to handle them.

= Long Term Reduction =

With 300 members:

 * Projected real costs: $811.60
   * Per member: $2.71 (3)
 * Expansion fund: $1
 * Total cost: $4
 * Monthly surplus: $388.40 (or $688.40 with $2 expansion fund)

This is feasible within a year given our new hardware.

= Related Ideas =

== Join National Cooperatives Bank ==

A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the [[http://ncb.coop|NCB]], but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account.

I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form.

== Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account ==

We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund?

1. Current Budget

  • 135 Members
  • 161 Pledges
  • $5/month/pledge
  • Income
    • pledges: $805
    • members: $685
  • Current Monthly Expenses

    • $969.85
  • 'Monthly Deficit: $164.85' ($1.02/pledge, $1.22/member)

  • 33 additional pledges needed to break even (59 additional members
    • without pledges)

1.1. Current Accumulated Deficit (up to October)

$136.30

2. Migration Expenses

  • Server Hardware: ~$2000
    • PowerEdge 2970 + large raid

    • Console Server
    • Switch
  • New Colocation: ~$700/month * 2
    • Actual cost pending
    • We would be carrying this in addition to peer1 for up to 60 days (ideally 30)

2.1. Migration Cost Per Member

2.1.1. Colocation

  • Each month at both colos (($700 + $850) = $2250)
    • Pledges: $13.97
    • Members: $16.67

2.1.2. Hardware

  • Per pledge: $14.82
  • Per member: $12.42

3. Dues Restructuring

3.1. Overview

  • Dues pegged to ceiling(recurring expenses / pledges)

  • The board would be authorized to add $0-$3 per share for projected
    • non-recurring costs and debts
  • Dues would be adjusted quarterly based on new costs and member counts
  • Plan would be enacted for December billing cycle

3.2. Short Term Increase

All numbers involving new setup are pending known colocation cost.

Assuming 161 pledges

  • Adjusted to October Real Cost = $969.85
  • Per pledge: $6.02
  • No debt repayment / non-recurring costs adjustment

3.2.1. Deficit

October and November would run a deficit.

  • October deficit: $164.85
  • November deficit: $864.85
  • Total: $1029'

This becomes a total migration deficit of ~$2000 + ~$1029 + $136.30 = ~$3165

3.2.2. End Peer1 Dec 1

  • December real cost:$811.60
  • December income (161 pledges @ $7): $1127
  • Surplus: ~$315
    • Per Pledge: $1.85
    • Per Member: $2.34
  • Remaining deficit Mar 1: '$2220'

  • Entire deficit paid off ~7 months later (assuming zero or slow expansion)

4. Numbers Look Better With New Members

Each new member joining before quarterly adjustment is paying 100% toward migration debt / expansion funding.

New members therefore essentially pay for the capacity expansion required to handle them.

5. Long Term Reduction

With 300 members:

  • Projected real costs: $811.60
    • Per member: $2.71 (3)
  • Expansion fund: $1
  • Total cost: $4
  • Monthly surplus: $388.40 (or $688.40 with $2 expansion fund)

This is feasible within a year given our new hardware.

6. Related Ideas

6.1. Join National Cooperatives Bank

A while ago we looked at leaving Wells Fargo and joining the NCB, but the discussion died with no resolution. Do we qualify to have a business account with NCB? If we do we might qualify for an interest bearing checking account.

I can't find anything to indicate that we wouldn't be eligible for a business account with the NCB. [http://www.ncb.coop/uploadedFiles/Applications_and_Forms/Commercial/Business%20Deposit%20Account%20Application.pdf] is the NCB application for a business deposit account. Interest-bearing checking accounts are available to nonprofits, but "some nonprofit organizations may not qualify." The website has phone numbers for banking and nonprofit specialists, as well as a general contact form.

6.2. Moving Member Deposits to an Interest Bearing Account

We could open an account for storing member deposits into a savings or similar type of account and perhaps make a small amount of interest. Member deposits tend to not be touched often (if needed only the lower 2/3 of the balance could be stored in the interest bearing account), and so would be ideal for storing this way. What are the rules for HCoop as a non-profit corporation with regard to interest? Do we have to disburse gained interest to member balances, or could it instead go into a general use fund?

DuesRestructuring (last edited 2011-04-22 22:55:40 by ClintonEbadi)